Note: All
the information reflected on this page is the work of Braenna.
Unfortunately her site is gone, however I was able to get my hands on a cached
copy of it, and I'm keeping it up since it has some very useful information.
Lockpick Testing Results
Lockpick |
Modifier |
Ranks |
Price |
Quality |
Strength |
Bonus |
Location |
Was |
Copper |
1.00 |
0 |
100 |
Crude |
Poor |
Worst |
WN/Ice/Teras |
Brass |
1.00 |
0 |
250 |
Crude |
Very Weak |
Poor |
SH |
Steel |
1.10 |
1 |
500 |
Common |
Average |
Average |
WN/Ice/Teras |
Crude |
Ivory |
1.20 |
1 |
750 |
Common |
Above Average |
Average |
SH |
Gold |
1.20 |
3 |
2000 |
Common |
Weak |
Average |
WN/Ice |
Common |
Silver |
1.30 |
3 |
2500 |
Common |
Average |
Average |
SH/Teras |
Good |
Ora |
1.55 |
5 |
5000 |
Good |
Strong |
Average |
WN/SH/Ice |
Mithril |
1.45 |
5 |
6000 |
Good |
Very Strong |
Average |
WN/SH/Ice/Teras |
Professional |
Glaes |
1.60 |
8 |
9500 |
Good |
Incredible |
Above Average |
WN/SH/Ice/Teras |
Laje |
1.75 |
12 |
17000 |
Good |
Average |
Very Good |
SH |
Alum |
2.30 |
16 |
23000 |
Professional |
Very Weak |
Excellent |
WN/Ice/Teras |
Vultite |
1.80 |
20 |
30000 |
Professional |
Average |
Above Average |
Teras |
Rolaren |
1.90 |
20 |
36000 |
Professional |
Very Strong |
Excellent |
WN/Ice |
Mithril/Mein |
Veniom |
2.20 |
25 |
50000 |
Superb |
Excellent |
Excellent |
Teras |
Kelyn |
2.40 |
30 |
62000 |
Superb |
Excellent |
Incredible |
WN |
Invar |
2.25 |
35 |
75000 |
Superb |
Incredible |
Excellent |
WN/Ice/Teras |
Golvern |
2.30 |
40 |
95000 |
Superb |
Highest |
Excellent |
Merchant Only? |
|
Vaalin |
2.50 |
50 |
125000 |
Superb |
Incredible |
Highest |
Guilds |
Alum |
Legend
Lockpick = Lockpick Type, Found in our Local Locksmith Shops
Modifier & Bonus = Same Thing, Use this in the Lockpick Formula to discover
your Max Lock
Ranks = Lockpicking Ranks Needed to Use this Lockpick Type
Quality = Bard Loresung Quality
Strength = How Easy or Difficult it is to Snap this Lockpick Type
Location = Which Lockpick is available in Which Town's Locksmith Shop?
WN = Wehnimer's Landing, SH = Solhaven, Ice = Icemule, Teras = Teras
Vaalin is only available in the Guild Shops.
Golvern is taken from Sayzor's Chart, see his Forum. It is not available
in any of the Locksmith Shops currently. (However, some older merchant picks
are singing as Golvern picks, the tested data is from Fremmin's Golvern Lockpick
which he was told by someone higher up is indeed a Golvern pick. Thus my
theory is Golvern will only be available from travelling merchants.)
Was = What some of these Lockpick Types Once Were
**Note: All old lockpicks (bought before Monday, February 12, 2001) need
to be converted to their new style. To do this, either try to pick something,
anything, with it, even if it doesn't have a lock, or ask Edwina to appraise
it (she converts them even if she won't repair them). Your lockicks will
now be converted. To find out which lockpick type your lockpicks are you
can 1) go to the pawnshop and have them appraised then multiply that by 3
or 2) ask a bard to sing to them to discover their value, then match that
value up with one of the values on this chart.
Formulas
Max Lock = (lockpick skill + wisdom bonus + lore bonus) * modifier
Lock Lore Bonus = (If Self Cast) Level/2 + Skill Bonus/10 + (Dex Bonus +
Wisdom Bonus)/4
Divide this by 2 if not Self Cast (& base it off the casters skill or
your own if from an imbed).
Max Trap = disarm skill + wisdom bonus + lore bonus
Trap Lore Bonus = (If Self Cast) Level/2 + Skill Bonus/10 + (Ref Bonus +
Dis Bonus)/4
Divide this by 2 if not Self Cast (& base it off the casters skill or
your own if from an imbed).
Sayzor's Forum
GM Sayzor held a forum a few years ago regarding these changes. Visit
www.tsoran.com
to learn more.
Stress Theory
Stresses no longer affect a pick's modifier. Though the more stresses the
more easily the lockpick will break. All lockpicks have a hit points (HP)
factor, you can see this by reading a bit of Sayzor's forum. It looks like
each stress lowers the amount of HPs that a lockpick has. Thank you Brianus
for pointing this out to us.
Also of note regarding stresses and breakage: neither a stress, a break,
nor a repaired lockpick will sing at a different value than it's original
value (once it's on the new system). Does this mean that repaired picks have
the same modifier as they did, just less HPs and more chance of breaking?
Testing of this is still needed.
My Skill (Unavailable)
With much help from the young rogue Gormin, I have created a spreadsheet
to allow everyone who isn't getting it yet, to figure out your max lock with
each pick type. Within the spreadsheet, the important page is entitled "My Skill". Download it if you wish to use it.
It will need to be unzipped. The file was done in Excel 2000, but should
be compatible with some older versions.
A Special Note
I hope you find this site to be of use. If you have any questions e-mail
me at shantasya@sympatico.ca
Thank You's
Thank you goes to Porcell and Fremmin for their work in discovering the mods.
I am doing my own research currently, and my results are quite similiar.
I made a change to laje as it seems to be more towards 1.75 than 1.70.
Thank you to Gormin, Melisani, Jylia, and Brianus, among others, for their
wonderful help in determing lockpick rank value to use for each pick. Thanks
again to Fremmin and to Ashren for first discovering the lockpick values
for the last four lockpicks.
Thank you to Sayrena for getting the Icemule and Solhaven information.
And a thank you to Tsoran for keeping a copy of the forum online for us.
This is only in it's beginning stages. It will be updated as more information
becomes available.
I'd also like to greatly expand this site.
Sincerely,
Laura,
Player of Braenna Zirathiel,
Dhe'nari Rogue
Last Update February 22, 2001
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